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To be held accountable. but we don't know the answer to that question yet. that's why the interview has to happen. there's a lot of evidence, however. >> james schultz, i love the passive indifference on your face right now. i want to know your take on what counselor eisen is saying, and i also want your take on how you would prep the president in terms of is this an interview that he takes? probably yes. under what circumstances? what's your double take here? >> so i agree with norm in that this is coming to a speedy conclusion and that bob mueller is looking to conclude the obstruction porti...

With corrupt intent, he's going to be held accountable. but we don't know the answer to that question yet. that's why the interview has to happen. there's a lot of evidence, however. >> james schultz, i love the passive indifference on your face right now. i want to know your take on what counselor eisen is saying, and i also want your take on how you would prep the president in terms of is this an interview that he takes? probably yes. under what circumstances? what's your double take here? >> so i agree with norm in that this is coming to a speedy conclusion and that bob mueller is looking t...

In his heart, how does that change in 17 days? it was either taught. he either believes it or he was trying to impress somebody. i don't think -- >> you're asking the tough questions, ed. >> you're going to tell me he has had a total change of heart on racism in his heart on 17 days? that's a tough bar. >> this is what we're saying. he didn't come out of a vacuum. he came out of a culture. he came out of habits dispositions practices in a society there at the school that tolerated this permitted this. don't scapegoat the kid alone. talk about what led to this. talk about the passive indifferen...