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Fiscal realities. >> right. >> he did try to do something with amnesty with regard to -- it didn't work out. it wasn't enforced properly. he did -- >> but he didn't use the kind of rhetoric that -- >> go ahead, joan. >> he didn't use the kind of rhetoric that has become common about immigration either. he opposed english-only laws. i'm not saying ronald reagan wasn't a conservative. i'm not saying that i agreed with him. i think the point that pat made that, oh, we should be so happy that he cut taxes on the wealthiest americans, we are still living with the problems of that. but he did, once ...

>> right. >> he did try to do something with amnesty with regard to -- it didn't work out. it wasn't enforced properly. he did -- >> but he didn't use the kind of rhetoric that -- >> go ahead, joan. >> he didn't use the kind of rhetoric that has become common about immigration either. he opposed english-only laws. i'm not saying ronald reagan wasn't a conservative. not saying that i agreed with him. i think the point that pat made that, oh, we should be so happy that he cut taxes on the wealthiest americans, we are still living with the problems of that. but he did, once he became president, h...

Rather 7 million illegals employed. those are jobs, working class americans, white, hispanic and black, get as soon as the unemployment -- as soon as the illegals are sent back. >> let's ask you about ronald reagan. let's go to joan on this question. the question is whether reaganism is the standard by which current policy in the republican party is being set. that's the question. ronald reagan did on occasion raise taxes to justify the fiscal realities. >> right. >> he did try to do something with amnesty with regard to -- it didn't work out. it wasn't enforced properly. he did -- >> but he d...

Came from them. >> well, i come from some of them, too. i'm a working class irish catholic. i just don't like the demonization of the president. >> you're demonizing these people. you are demonizing millions and millions of people. tea party people. >> i'm not. i'm demonizing the ones that are -- >> i've got to go, guys. this is an important american argument. pat, thank you. and joan. actually, both my friends. the national tea party convention. certainly a commercial operation that's going to be in nashville this weekend. wait until you hear what's on the agenda this weekend. wait until yo...

Conservative economic policy. i'll give him credit. >> one of the sad -- but one of the sad -- >> it kept the economy going. and so did volcker. >> but ronald reagan raised the payroll taxes. which really hurt -- >> but joan, they're for social security. they make the program solvent. >> there were other ways to do it. he was a person who accommodated reality in a way that the tea party folks don't. he was a person that was to the detriment of my party, expanded his party. he was a big tent republican. we have tiny tent republicans. they want the party to fit into a tea bag, pat. >> let me ans...