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He challenged joe biden. thanks for joining us again tonight. congratulations, joe biden won your state. are you confident he will win the white house? >> it is looking -- it is looking very good. i want to congratulate him for the campaign that he ran. >> and you gave him an awful lot of help. you endorsed him right away. you promised to work. you said the most important priority for all democrats had to be to remove donald trump from the white house. what do you make of the results as we're seeing across the country right now, a nation still deeply divided? donald trump still getting the sec...

That jeff zucker's marinette ran over the weekend. watch if you dare. >> the word cult has been popping up more and more. none of them are mental health experts. steven hasan is. he has escaping the unification church in the 1970s. he believe there is something seriously long with our politics. >> you say the president is using mind control. how is that provable. >> we can start with the pathological lying, which is characteristic of destructive cult leaders. shunning and kicking out anyone who raises questions or concerns about his own behavior. >> it is frightening to hear a cult expert sayi...

They are all cult leaders. you have think we are making that up, no. that was an actual segment that jeff zucker's marionette ran over the weekend. watch if you dare. >> the word cult has been popping up more and more. none of them are mental health experts. steven hasan is. he has escaping the unification church in the 1970s. he believes there is something seriously long -- wrong with our politics. >> you say the president is using mind control. how is that provable? >> we can start with the pathological lying, which is characteristic of destructive cult leaders. shunning and kicking out anyo...

Obedient followers so for me, the issue between an ethical healthy cult versus a destructive cult, i'm referring to trump's organization and followership as a destructive cult, where people are being fed propaganda and they're not being encouraged to think for themselves. they're not being encouraged to really explore and look at the details and arrive at their own conclusion. much of what they're hearing is emotionally driven, loaded words, thought-stopping and stop-terminating-type cliches like fake news or build the wall or make america great again. >> you say the president is using mind co...

The lying, the pathological lying, the self-aggrandizement, the detachment from reality, the extreme narcissism, the misogyny, the ruthlessness, lack of remorse. all of those things are absolutely on public display, and the idea that as citizens, we're not supposed to make judgments, reasoned judgments about those things as they're unfolding before our eyes, i think is silly and irresponsible. i've worked in three administrations. i worked in the white house as a senior adviser for seven years, and one of the things i came away from is the belief that even more than policy -- and i care a lot ...