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Or did one of the pilots have an agenda? well, the background of the pilots doesn't suggest they had an agenda. so we are left with the question -- the pilots or passengers? >> let me go back one step further to the pilot. we have this information about the deleted files off the flight simulator. is there anything in and of itself us is patient bus that? >> no, not at all. i have a flight simulator myself. i delete files all the time. essentially some of the flight simulators are just pcs with enhanced programs and lots of computer screens around them. these type of simulations eat up a lot of...

And didn't crash. >> kerry sanders, inning stuff. thank you for walking us through all of that. let's bring in retired navy fighter pilot rick ozzie nelson. also with us, john hansman. he runs m.i.t.'s international center for air transportation. john, what do you make of the timeline and the fact that the transmitters were shut off right as they are moving -- is this correct, from malaysia into vietnam? >> the malaysians have shifted the time lines a little bit. yesterday they have been saying that will was a dash one of the communication raid wroes shut off. then there was the last air traff...