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Come on mueller recently. that's about to change, okay. and when the focus of the investigation turns back to the mueller probe and away from sort of the house probe and the senate probe and all of these other things that people have added on while we've been waiting for the mueller probe to mature to this level where we're going to see kbha they have at least some of this, now the forces nar defending on capitol hill and the media, you name it are going to start again -- i'm sorry, i think you're already seeing it this weekend to call for mueller's resignation and to try to paint him and his ...

Line, he's acting improperly. so i don't know. i think we're going to see fireworks if the president decides, hey, this is really an investigation of the trump financial empire. >> and that red line you spoke about was dealing with finances. >> that's right. >> and the possibility of the taxes being exposed. we don't know what he's really looking into at this point. but david, as paul brings up, other legal analysts that we've talked to also have raised those same concerns that president trump may try to fire mueller at this moment in time. is there anything preventing the president from doing...

Paul cal lesson, laura coats, done steen and jeff tu been. michael, let's put this into perspective for us. what does this mean for the mueller investigation? >> well, what it means is that he's indicted somebody. we don't know whether it's to the core charge of collusion or whether it's to the collateral charge of money laundering or tax evasion. we can surmise from pamela's reporting if it was andrew wise man who was at the courthouse who was returning the indictment, wise man has been on the manafort case and that it therefore might beological to conclude that it is manafort. manafort has b...

Next few hours and days going through that complaint in detail. that probably would happen ahead of thursday. there's going to be a preliminary hearing in this case and a detention hearing as well. >> i want to bring paul into the conversation. we don't have the criminal complaint yet. i can't wait to take a look at it. at its surface, what do you see the charges mr. dutschke is going to face? >> he could be facing life in prison. he's charged right now, we believe, with possession of a biological weapon. that weapon being ricin. if you make ricin properly, it is absolutely deadly. although th...

Weapon. she says dutschke bragged about being a member of mensa. >> he had a mensa card and it was one of his things he was proud of. >> he showed you the card? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: curtis says dutschke has been harassing him online since 2004? why do you think he was interested in you? >> i don't know. >> i don't have anything to do with this. i don't hardly know the guy. we only met on two occasions. >> reporter: curtis is focused on spending time with his two children. >> here with me live is paul cal