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is money. would you ever allow a shutdown in the future? >> a shutdowns in terms of covid? i let the governors make their decisions, some of them from south carolina, you know and frankly, north dakota a few of them tennessee, they didn't shut down at all. florida did shut down, ron desantis shut down, or ron desanctimonious as he is known. he shut his state down, very violently down. he shut the highways down. >> donald trump criticizing ron dissents for his response to the covid-19 pandemic at a town hall last night at iowa, it aired on fox news. that happened not too far where des...

Foreign countries, and he's on the phone with his cabinet, or he's on the phone with somebody who is lost their home because of a tornado or going through some personal problem. and so i see that strength and that resilience and that steadiness every single day, and he is unflappable. when i look at the man, his integrity's character has not changed, and he is unwavering and he is unflappable. >> yet another presidential campaign. this would be, what your fourth? >> the 14th campaign. potentially another four years in the white house with everything that you do hear. does yet another want to g...