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Change on that so far. >> yeah. i think there has been a shift in the administration. they've made two major shifts. remember, in the beginning they wanted to get this done during president trump's first term. paul: right. >> now, no rush. major change. the second change is taking place inside the national security team, and that is the recognition that this has to be a step-by-step the process, that to think that north korea will give us all of their weapons, nuclear and ballistic missiles and then we would give them sanction relief is not realistic. they've come the that understanding. so i ...

Change on that so far. >> yeah. i think there has been a shift in the administration. they've made two major shifts. remember, in the beginning they wanted to get this done during president trump's first term. paul: right. >> now, no rush. major change. the second change is taking place inside the national security team, and that is the recognition that this has to be a step-by-step the process, that to think that north korea will give us all of their weapons, nuclear and ballistic missiles and then we would give them sanction relief is not realistic. they've come the that understanding. so i ...