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Impeachment inquiry. >> that's what's really interesting. how far beyond the ukraine situation we've been talking about is this going to go. i thought they may go into some of the counts that the mueller investigation came up with. but it looks like they make deviate into the wikileaks stuff, and also the pawn manafort/ukraine connection. they're clearly going beyond the ukraine scandal which we've been focusing on. >> it's not impossible to get grand jury information b. its hard. when you look back to watergate there's some precedent for it. i wonder if it's easier because of the official imp...

House. maybe donald trump would not because he's such an out the box president. i don't see him being against pawn manafort. >> is that what are you suggesting? >> listen, the presidential power of klclemency, there is a part in there of the idea o of -- there are things that a president can do. manafort committed real crimes and the president's team has to look at this of what it really is. >> this question of whether he tugt have known each other, this is laid out with someone with that level of sophistication, as i believe an attorney is someone who ought to have known better, not just in t...

Trick-or-treat candy on halloween. but from your, from a prosecutor's perspective, if someone comes in and says that's not an enormous amount of leverage, i'm so glad you said follow the money. what the team, the prosecution team is investigation team is really going to be doing, in significant part is following the money. that's how you investigate these cases. and asymmetry of information is the power that the special counsel and the prosecutors have. pawn manafort or any other individual who is caught up in this probe, they have no idea what evidence the special counsel has gathered. so you...