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Out, including actually writing the bill and figuring out how to pay for it. many are not ready to start voting next week. and one provision in particular empowering the irs to step up their enforcement of unpaid taxes has republicans concerned. >> the biggest, most important issue is the pay force. we simply can't afford to spend more borrowed money, especially on nonemergency matters. >> reporter: the white house remains confident the bill remains on track. >> we certainly understand the ups and downs, no one better than the president. that's the period of time we're in at this point. >> rep...

Infrastructure investments. >> that seems like a very long-term commitment to get the money to pay for this infrastructure bill over the next five years. you've got on one hand this infrastructure deal that was reached today, the other this reconciliation bill. control room, if we have the sound from senator manchin, let's play that because you're going to need his vote to get that reconciliation bill through the senate. >> the to say that one is being held hostage doesn't seem to be fair to me. but we have to see what's in the other plan before i can say, oh yes, you vote for this and i'll vo...

Package versus what the bipartisan group has put together. the president has always tried to negotiate the biggest deal possible and then as he put it, fight over the rest. the early read on where the bipartisan package stands is that they are pleased to see the process continuing to move forward, but they had questions about what is in the package and what is not. but also about the pay force. the white house has drawn a few red lines, one of them what the president considers increase on taxes for the middle class including gas inflation. we will wait to see what comes together next week. som...

More on where democrats stand on the key question of how not to do what democrats often do so well, namely, tie things into knots. joining us, james carville. you have one group of democrats, these five, says we have a bipartisan deal. you have another group of democrats saying they are fed up with trying to reach compromise with republicans. how do you square that circle? >> well, first of all, you are talking about the pay force. you could raise somewhere between three-quarters of a trillion dollars and a trillion and a half. we could pay for a lot with enforcement. every democrat can rally ...

The president of the united states says. >> on that point -- >> we know there's a new statement -- >> i have that statement.things. i'm paraphrasing. it appreciates the work of the senators. number two, it says it has questions. questions need to be addressed about the policy and the pay force. in other words, everything. they have a lot of questions about what's in the details. ed third e third thing, we want talk to other members as well. the white house wants to reach out to other democrats and take their temperature here. what do you make of that? >> it's not no which is something. what i ...