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I just think he was getting a lot of pressure behind the scenes. it's very interesting, down in kentucky -- jim bunning was forced to retire by mitch mcconnell, the republican king of kentucky politics. a but things are getting away from mcconnell. because down in kentucky, there's a primary race to be the republican candidate to replace jim bunning. both candidates, rand paul the son of ron paul and tres grayson are both eager to get bunning's endorsement. so it's a very interesting thing where bunning really has become the tea party in the senate. i don't think we've heard -- he can't stand ...

Hypocritical for not having voted for the paygo thing. his excuse was, well, it has no teeth in it anyway. but the first opportunity he had to try to help it out, he didn't do that. he could have offered amendments to the paygo thing if he was really serious about it. i think he's on the loose. i think he's the tea party incarnate in the senate. if people like mcconnell and the other republicans are going to have to be dealing with him from now until the time that the senate quits its business at the end of the year. >> howard, the msnbc sports desk just screamed into my ear that the kentucky ...

Teeth in it anyway. but the first opportunity he had to try to help it out, he didn't do that. he could have offered amendments to the paygo thing if he was really serious about it. i think he's on the loose, he's the tea party incarnate in the senate. people like mcconnell and the other republicans are going to have to be dealing with him from now until the time that the senate quits its business at the end of the year. >> howard, the msnbc sports desk just screamed into my ear that the kentucky basketball game is tomorrow night. so let's keep that straight. >> all right. >> before you go, le...