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Mistaken about it. sondland, you know, on down. because it's a conversation that is -- you know, this will get into some other issues, but it's a conversation that involves multiple people. >> right. >> so he's now boxed himself into "i don't remember" and so the only defense is it didn't happen as opposed to giving it a more, it happened, and here's an innocent defense of it. >> republicans, it seems to me, hit back on two major areas today. number one, it can't be a crime because the aid went through to ukraine. neal katyal sat where you're sitting now for a good portion of the day and compa...

People are either lying or mistaken about it. sondland, you know, on down. because it's a conversation that is -- is this will get into some other issues. but it's a conversation that involves multiple people. and so he's now boxed himself i' to i don't remember and the only defense he has is it didn't happen as opposed to giving it a more it happened and here's an innocent defense of it.ha >> republicans it seems, mimi, hit back on two major areas today.ca number one, it can't be a crime because the aid went through to ukraine. neal katyal sat where you're sitting now for a good portion of th...

Of this was familiar to you. if you're just a member of the general public who doesn't necessarily pay attention to these things as often as you and i do, brian, you're tuning in and you're kind of scratching your head a little bit. and i think that's where republicans might have taken a misstep today in focusing on all these sort of exterior issues that are not directly related to the allegations that democrats are trying to prove with these hearings. and it's a missed opportunity for republicans too because they're not really trying to substantively push back in that respect against what dem...

It presumably on friday when mr. holmes testifies behind closed doors. mr. holmes is of course that aide that william taylor was referring to. and then next wednesday when gordon sondland himself testifies before investigators in public. >> the very shirt sleevy jim jordan today spoke at a speed that was compared to an auctioneer. between him and nunes raising topics like nude pictures and the steele dossier and domestic spying. was that in fact a technique? were they going for tossing out multiple subjects and hoping for confusion among other tools in their toolbox? >> well, i viewed it as th...

People are either lying or mistaken about it. sondland, you know, on down. because it's a conversation that is -- is this will get into some other issues. but it's a conversation that involves multiple people. and so he's now boxed himself in to i don't remember and the only defense he has is it didn't happen as opposed to giving it a more it happened and here's an innocent defense of it. >> republicans it seems, mimi, hit back on two major areas today. number one, it can't be a crime because the aid went through to ukraine. neal katyal sat where you're sitting now for a good portion of the da...