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>> he chose to hit me, attack me right in front of the cops in the tower, right in the chow hall. so i consider that to be a protective custody pc move on his part. >> he was just saying that the other guy, johns, was doing a pc move and trying to say he owes drug money on the yard or something like that and the reason he is doing that is so that he is in the hole now, so he won't get stabbed on the yard or whatever. so if he is in the hole, he won't have contact with the inmates on the yard. if they do something in front of the cops they will be locked up and sent to the hole and they will st...

I mean, sometimes this is the only way people listen. >> hello, shiverdecker. >> how are you doing? >> i'm the deputy warden. >> how are you doing, sir? >> good. how are you? >> i've been out for the last two days straight because of this. it's not something that you can just go to the cops and say, hey, man, i feel like somebody is going to kill me. you can help me? then you're going to have a lot more problems than you've already got. sometimes you feel like, hey, somebody's going to harm you. you've got to harm them before they harm you, period, you know? >> all right. do me a favor. go do ...

>> he chose to hit me, to tackle me right in front of the cops and the tower right in the somehow hall. he was just saying the other guy was doing a pc move. he's saying the reason why he's doing that so he's in the hole now so he dubt get stabbed in the yard or what not. so if they're telling him in the yard, hey, they needed money or you're going to get stabbed. they do something in front of the cops and they stay here, until, you know, a later date. they're going to have to deal with it for a short time. >> johns did, in fact, get sentenced to time in the hole but never confirmed whether it...

Two days straight because of this. it's not something that you can just go to the cops and say, hey, man, i feel like somebody is going to kill me. you can help me? then you're going to have a lot more problems than you've already got. sometimes you feel like, hey, somebody's going to harm you. period. you've got to harm them before they harm you, period, you know? >> all right. do me a favor. go do your guys' interviews and come up and we'll see where we are going to put this guy. we'll leave him in medical for a while. see what they say. there's two things i'm concerned with. one, he's appro...

>> how are you doing? >> i'm the deputy warden. >> how are you doing, sir? >> good. how are you? >> i've been out for the last two days straight because of this. it's not something that you can just go to the cops and say, hey, man, i feel like somebody is going to kill me. can you help me? then you're going to have a lot more problems than you've already got. sometimes you feel like, hey, somebody's going to harm you. you better harm them before they harm you, period. >> all right. do me a favor. go do your guys' interviews and come up and we'll see where we are going to put this guy. we'll l...