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Russia and in some instances china here. so we have to work with those individuals to make sure that we have opportunities to denuclearize north korea. does that mean vladimir putin will be coming to washington? we don't know. but we have to make sure that we can work with those entities for the betterment of the world which is a denuclearizing north korea. >> you've got such good political radar, having run the campaign and being involved in politics for so long with donald trump. should he consider pardons for people like manafort and flynn? how much of a political firestorm would that cause...

Be acknowledged by everyone. why didn't your boss secure it? >> well i think that you had governor perry on earlier in the show and he was talking about the politics even in texas. it realty's pretty much easier po pass things in texas that is conservative p president bush got very close. he did some creative things along the way to try to secure the border while waiting for the bill to pass. one of them was the first president ever to send the national guard to try to help -- >> he sent a few because i remember that was my suggestion. i'm going to take credit for that. >> all right. >> i know...