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For others who are not members of the united states senate. so there are all kinds of pe permutations, the impact of which we don't know. i wonder how this is playing in the rest of the country. the national surveys to me look like the same as the president's voters approval. new data in from wisconsin, if we can put that up on the screen, this comes from marquette's law school, should not be impeached, say wisconsin voters. 51% should be, 44%. i'm still not sure this is a winning issue for democrats. >> it may not be, but at some point the cynical, political move is to do not do anything in...

President several times this week. and our conversations they're about what we can do and should do. i think the president is open to considering broadening background checks. wr we discussed various pe permutations. i won't get into the specifics of a private conversation, but i'll say the president is very much interested, he's listening. i think he wants to work with congress and accomplish something. >> well, that begs the question of what about wayne lapierre? there are reports he has spoken to the head of the nra. last time that happened the president backed off his prior support for bac...