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Feels that with that sixth nuclear test that he has achieved a nuclear security and he now sees himself as a nuclear world power and he's moving on to sort of the next line -- the next point of his diplomacy in economic development and he doesn't feel the need to make these displays anymore. who knows what the truth is. it's not necessarily a big win as president trump has been saying. >> sue, does it sound like the kim you have known and studied over here that he would invite trump to another summit right at this point where we and others in the civilized world are reporting their capability ...

It's not necessarily a big win as president trump has been saying. >> sue, does it sound like the kim you have known and studied over here that he would invite trump to another summit right at this point where we and others in the civilized world are reporting their capability of making -- that they are actively making new weapons? >> absolutely, this is kim's play. i absolutely believe he wants to meet with president trump again. i think he thinks there is an opportunity here for president trump to give him what he wants, and what he wants is eventually start with a declaration, a peace decla...

Must do you not only for its nuclear weapons but it's biological and chemical warfare. i'm hoping north korea will embrace that. l of skeicism abt it and we also hope there could be some comments about north korea and their human rights but i think that's unlikely. we are hoping there is not a lot of movement on a peace treaty or peace declaration, since that could have an impact on u.s. forces in south korea. we want to see a dressing of the north korean conventional threat to the south before you move down very far on a peace declaration or a peace treaty. >> shannon: are you interested that...

To the point he's raising about whether that is a symbolic thing. i think the point earlier, an agreemento end the war might also be expected to take away the legal if not political justification for having tens of thousands of u.s. troops in south korea. so whether it was greeted symbic practically we'd have to see. >> there's a difference between piece declaration and a peace treaty where you sign. >> an armistice. >> yes. >> you can have a peace declaration. say it, let's end the war, the hostilitie hostilities. we can do that particularly if north korea puts something on the table. but for...

And i think now the white house is defining success as if they establish a good relationship and have enough progress to justify follow on summits or at least mtings and 234eg other yagss. >> what do you expect kim to insist upon. >> i think kim will be coming in with a big package deal, he wants denuclearization according to north korean terms, in return for normalization of relations, easing of sanctions and having a peace declaration or peace treaty, which could create momentum for reduces u.s. forces on the peninsula. >> the president was saying he didn't have to prepare too much for this ...