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>> correct. >> but you're saying he distinctly left open the possibility that there was, deliberate and authorized, electronic surveillance of people like roger stone, paul manafort and others around donald trump, possibly general flynn, who were known to have some kind of contacts with russian authorities. >> that is exactly it, lawrence. i mean, i think, again, he did mention title 3 which is investigation. what he did not mention is title 10 and title 5 which covers espionage, which covers intelligence collections. we know we were listening to the russians as we saw with michael flynn. it's...

Intelligence collections. we know we were listening to the russians as we saw with michael flynn. it's very possible within the sort of pedestrian collection of information that we may have swept up information on flynn, on manafort. it's so -- he not addressing that to me is a very clear sign that, you know, that door is still very much open. >> david corn, your reading of where it stands now. >> i think we have multiple investigations going forward. we know the house a senate intelligence committees are investigating. we also know they're led by republicans who were not happy to be looking a...