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Around the edges on manufacturing and coal but he is never going to revive those industries in the way of bringing back thousands and thousands of jobs. so it has to be an infrastructure spending bill. that is what he has to go up against republicans on. >> your point is essentially what bannon said yesterday. the stories about chaos in the white house don't matter to the people they are talking about. their agenda is what matters. >> jobs, jobs, jobs. >> jeremy peters, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> the world according to trump is coming up. the first meant on substance and policy ha...

>> and let me say something about president obama -- >> go ahead, david. >> just about president obama. it's significant the president is weighing in the way he is doing. you played that sound a couple minutes ago on the tom joyner show. he is speaking directly to african-americans in some cases saying there cannot be an enthusiasm gap, we've seen softness among projections in states like north carolina. the president is saying there's a legacy. if you believe in what i believe in in my presidency pef to pass the pa on the to hillary clinton and that's been a big concern all along. can the oba...

George h.w. bush had to get george w. bush to fire john sununu because he couldn't do it. i think obama. my own sense and john has forgotten more about this than i know, my sense is that if you become president when you are 45, 46-years-old and you've had the background obama had personally, you are probably pretty confident in your judgment. >> i would say one other thing after five years. we are now at the five 84 mark, i got the same people. they're tired. >> i think i got a lot of energy. i was pretty tired after two years. i think that's one of the issues which worries me. you know, this ...

We're sending them to a motel. >> to a motel? >> roaches check in but they don't check out. >> it's true. they don't check out. but the more important truth is that most roaches won't check in. for every roach we see there are hundreds behind the walls, and just one roach couple can have 20,000 babies. traps and insect sprays make it feel like we're accomplishing something because we can see the roach die, but that won't solve a roach problem. foggers which fog up the house with poison gas are better killers because they carry the pef side into more hiding places but have you to leave the hous...

Campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. welcome back to msnbc. i want to take you live in lansing, michigan, pef within watching the developing story there, breaking news from this morning where union members are protesting the governor's new right to work law. gathering outside the lansing state house there, over 10,000 people are on-site. some of the protesters are truly getting emotional about what it means to them. >> i have the opportunit...