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This was last voiced on this broadcast by the noted political analyst stevenson, who actually had a point. so in that vein, when are the democrats going to find a wartime consigliere, instead of the collection of mostly student council presidents that currently makes of the democratic caucus? >> oh yeah, they got to be more vicious, and tougher, and more with less, they got to play like the other side is playing, and stop play bringing pen knives to the gunfights. democrats have always lagged behind republicans in going for the jugular communications, strategic communication. they are not as g...

Something -- >> what you're saying is what the editorial board of the washington post-said. post-9/11, era of reinforced cockpit doors and savvy passengers, air marshal programs can flight attendants trained in self-defense. pen knives -- >> what about the use of pen knives? >> that's one of the requests. we haven't seen that. that's what they're basing it on. >> they're killing to and we're going to kill 150 more unless you open the cockpit door. >> congress should revisit the statute. let's make sure the checkpoints get what they're supposed to get. >> michael. thanks so much. >> a number of...

On the same routes, which i find quite baffling. in terms of this knife issue, i just can't for the life of me understand why the tsa's first relaxation of these very stringent rules would allow people to take onboard the very kind of weapon that the 9/11 hijackers deployed to take control of that plane. i mean, they used box cutters and pen knives. >> mm-hmm. well, look, i think lts rr a legitimate concern. i think that you would have to make -- they're not obviously making the case to the american people in a way that americans find satisfactory. this is again a role of congress to find out ...

He's a very bright guy. i'm not going to -- we'll remain friends. >> let's turn to the tsa. they have announced they're going to allow a number of pen knives and other implements of that nature back onto planes, and a former tsa chief who ran the tsa for five years until recently has told cnn that he would go further. he said they ought to let everything on that's sharp and pointy. battle-axes, machetes, bring anything you want that's pointy and sharp because while you may be able to commit an act of violence, you will not be able to take over the plane. it's as simple as that. what is your re...

There's an impending attack on the united states of america that we would have to respond in any way possible to prevent another 9/11. i believe that's what the attorney general of the united states was trying to say. >> do you have any message for newt gingrich? >> oh, listen, newt and i have been friends for many, many years. i respect his opinions. he's a very bright guy. i'm not going to -- we'll remain friends. >> let's turn to the tsa. they have announced they're going to allow a number of pen knives and other implements of that nature back onto planes, and a former tsa chief who ran the...