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Currently paying a penalty averaging almost $1,000 per person for not having insurance because they can't afford obamacare. >> and when their premiums go up -- >> excuse me, congressman. i didn't interrupt you. i would like to finish. in addition medicaid spending is exploding. it's threatening to drown the nation in red ink. we need medicaid reform. right now medicaid dollars are consuming 57%, don, of all federal dollars going to the states. not just health care dollars. it's crowding out school aid. it's crowding out highway funds. medicate per capita spending -- >> cnn is reporting that th...

They need 216 votes to pass this in the house. that means that trump and the leadership can't lose mor than 20 republicans. you put the conservatives that don't like this with the republicans that don't like this, and this thing is wobbly. >> betsy is saying -- betsy is very sure, she's saying it's going to pass both houses of congress. from everything that you're hearing, congressman, from the president, to speaker ryan and your former colleagues, does the gop plan have a shot? do you think it will be passed? >> it's like a baseball game. it ain't over until it's over. i've seen legislation t...