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High level. why not try it? >> yeah, it seems like everything is looked through the lens of politics and people just decide, you know, to kind of go along with whatever their side is saying. it's unfortunate. what are you working on tonight? >> i am going to take a look at what's going to happen tomorrow night with the debates. we have a couple of surrogates to do a plus/minus on who's better. i have harry enten who we're calling the wizard of odds. we're going to take you through it that way tonight. >> the wizard of odds. there it is. >> come on. >> i'll see you a couple of minutes from now....

For appellate court judge, keptledge wrote a book about how he likes leadership as a personal kind of lonely enterprise, so less of a high-profile but all three of them closely watched. >> he's a michigander, he likes hunting. >> the president is said he's not interested in selecting a supreme court nominee who is going to engage in judicial activism. what's the message that he's trying to send here? >> i think he knows that this confirmation battling in the senate is going to be extremely difficult. considering all of these are conservative candidates, some more so than the others. but and he...