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Were they accidental or intentional and what was the level of obstruction of justice or of an investigation that happened afterward? that is what the justice department needs to look into. that will involve probably i think a special counsel here to fairly and adequately look into how these documents got out. why they did, was it just sloppiness or was someone voluntarily trying to get documents out of the white house? that is the same standard of law that has been applied to president biden that should to president trump and vice president pence here. >> you're raising a stunning prospect, co...

He pointed out willie that 93 united states senators disagreed with him and said he was lying about a stolen election that his own attorney general called that stolen election and i am quoting, attorney general barr here, donald trump's claims were nothing but quotes and -- the governor and the legislatures in every battleground state rejected his lies. of course over 60 federal judges and courts, rejected those lies. the united states supreme court rejected those lies and the two most conservative members of the supreme court. why don't we take up this pence case, it's not going to make a