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Could you support a deal here out of this gang of six on the budget that includes tax increases? >> well, we are not talking about -- we are not talking about raising tax rates at all so if there's a net effect of tax revenue that would be fine. >> john greenspan was on this program last week and said the bush era tax cuts should expire for everybody. is that not fair? >> you have to work both sides of the equation but we did not raise tax rates in this proposal. what we did was have tax reform. >> welcome back. that was tom coburn of oklahoma and kent conrad of north dakota on "meet the press...

Barbour shook up the gop field announcing he will not be a candidate in 2012. a lot of people thought he would be. paul, confident his enthusiastic base of supporters from his 2008 run, is still there. >> it looks like the enthusiasm has continued. i assume before, as soon as the campaign was over i would go back to congress, and nobody would hear of me again, but the enthusiasm has continued, and it's mainly because the message is necessary, it's the correct message. freedom is the issue. jon: all right. let's talk about all this with somebody who watches this thing and dissects every move fr...

Of the equation but we did not raise tax rates in this proposal. what we did was have tax reform. >> welcome back. that was tom coburn of oklahoma and kent conrad of north dakota on "meet the press" yesterday. can democrats and republicans fix the budget? former labor secretary robert reich and author of "aftershock" and larry sabatos author of "pendulum swing. dts thank you for coming on the show. this is bogged up or clogged up in american politics. that is, you can only adjust one side of the ledger now. cutting spending and that's all anybody talks about. we have a poll you might not be sh...

About raising tax rates at all so if there's a net effect of tax revenue that would be fine. >> john greenspan was on this program last week and said the bush era tax cuts should expire for everybody. is that not fair? >> you have to work both sides of the equation but we did not raise tax rates in this proposal. what we did was have tax reform. >> welcome back. that was tom coburn of oklahoma and kent conrad of north dakota on "meet the press" yesterday. can democrats and republicans fix the budget? former labor secretary robert reich and author of "aftershock" and larry sabatos author of "pe...

Presidential election maps and projections. larry sabato releasing a map of the country, predicting a path president obama could take to win reelection but it's not your typical electoral map, the obama campaign could be focusing on key states the president won last time, but with the legs more than a year and a half away, a lot can change, of course. joining us is larry sabato, director the center of politics, university of virginia and author of the pendulum swing. good to see you professor, good to see you here. let's cut to the chase, is president obama going to be a one-termer? >> well, h...