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For the two koreas to take the temperature of one another in a way that could perhaps tell us more about what's really going on inside north korea. hard to speculate beyond that, but it is a chance we're taking. i think president moon really has this under control by letting those north koreans come and participate on his terms in his country. eric: bottom line, though, it is certainly not going to stop the nuclear program. do you see a day where the world does have to accept that -- they cannot denuclearize the north unless that regime falls? >> let me quote chairman of the joint chiefs of st...

Time to stop his program, how is that achieved? >> i see that by particularly no more tests. what he's done is he's done some preliminary tests that have tested the intercontinental missile but normally you would expect to see a dozen or more tests to really prove out that capability. let's make sure he doesn't prove that capability. let's leave some doubt about the technical expertise that they have. i see this being achieved by continuing pressure from the u.n., assistance with russia, china, and all the world together, so let them have their olympic moment. let south korea learn everything ...

Kim? >> i think it is real. i don't see this as a propaganda coup for kim. i like how president moon has taken control here. it's good to have the peninsula talks, the talks between the two koreas. they have already reactivated the military hotline as a result of those talks, a few weeks ago. so i think this is moon's chance to give an olive branch, but also to control the narrative around north korea's participation in the olympics. eric: how does he do that? >> well, i think he has it on his side at this point. look, moon has done what's really important. he went ahead and deployed the missi...

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