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Because it's a violent trade. >> they're. the associated press did some research who is commuting. one of these guys busted with 10 pounds of cocaine. is he not a gang member at lump i can't university smoking weed on library break. hardened criminals. they plea bargain this down. >> no users in federal penitentiaries. >> a lot of the prosecutor can't get them on the other stuff so they nail them on the drug charges. no federal prosecutor is going to waste his time with someone with no criminal record and nonviolent crime. it's not going to happen. if you are in federal prison these are harden...

You can be. how much is this issue? >> it's all relative because he has done some pretty terrible things with the prisoner are swap and iran deal i would say this is 8.5? 8 and a half? >> yeah. >> how about you, jessica. >> i'm at about a one. >> a one? >> i think there are considerations obviously what mr. bratton said. i think it's something that we need to consider obviously. we know these are guys who did bad things. this is not innocent people locked away forever. we do know where are this is tide is turning. >> the tide is turning because we have a liberal administration. >> what about a...

Because it's a violent trade. >> they're. the associated press did some research who is commuting. one of these guys busted with 10 pounds of cocaine. is he not a gang member at lump i can't university smoking weed on library break. hardened criminals. they plea bargain this down. >> no users in federal penitentiaries. >> a lot of the prosecutor can't get them on the other stuff so they nail them on the drug charges. no federal prosecutor is going to waste his time with someone with no criminal record and nonviolent crime. it's not going to happen. if you are in federal prison these are harden...

>> some prison authorities see all this added muscle as a potential security threat, but others see benefits to having weights on the yard. >> i think the important thing for inmates is to keep them occupied. that's what we try to do here at the institution. >> john ault was warden at anamosa state penitentiary at the time we shot there. >> any time you can have inmates participate in some type of meaningful activity it makes their time easier and staff's time much easier. i would much rather have them participate in something positive than talking about how to do a better armed robbery or plo...

Abandoned prison auditorium. >> the musical program was a great award winning thing because, in fact, we would have competition against other penitentiaries. and stateville was always number one. in here it's like a cage of awaiting execution because there's nothing for a man to do and no programs or nothing. you're just sitting here like a commodity. you know, a price tag on your forehead with nothing to do. >> rehabilitation, what's that? what's that? they erased that out of the dictionary here. there's no such thing as rehabilitation. it's about money. it's all about money. if they can keep...