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Carson did with sally quinn, in which he said he doesn't believe in the rapture or hell, i believe. >> uh-huh. >> was damaging. that's what the former campaign manager said. do you think it was damaging? and what do the religious voters out there need to know about dr. carson? >> well, first, i think we need to correct the false narratives about dr. carson. every time he's labeled as such, we discover later that that's not truly the case. dr. carson is a man who believes in the divinity of jesus christ. he's a man who believes in mainstream doctrine. and as far as i'm concerned and he's concer...

All played out as a very public spat. when i sat down today with dr. carson and his new campaign chairman retired general manager bob dees in their virginia campaign headquarters, i asked about the campaign's messy shakeup. what wasn't happening that needed to have been happening? >> operations. the ability to execute. there's a special talent involved in execution. and a lot of people in politics, in medicine, in law -- in everything, don't have that ability. doesn't mean they're not good people. it means you need to add that in. >> one of the things that we've heard in criticisms from people...

And when i spoke to the trump campaign manager about this, he said, no kidding, but he used more colorful language. he said they chose that footage intentionally to show what the u.s. would look like if we don't deal with immigration and build a wall along the southern border, jake. >> sara murray, thanks so much. a sit-down with dr. penn carson whose headline is saying new year, new me. i sat down with the renowned neurosurgeon today after three high ranking members of his staff resigned after he announced there would be shakeups and after he went from leading donald trump nationally two mo...

You know, the question one would ask is it about volume or about values? is it about wild proclamations or about policy that leads us to moral high ground as american sns is it about a temptist or temp temperament. >> the words you're using in terms of contrast seem to be drawing an implicit contrast with the front-runner nationally and most of the states donald trump. that seemed to be what you were just saying when you were talking about tempest versus temperame temperament. why not come out and say that? >> well, i would rather and i know dr. carson would rather we the people of america, we...