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Many say his spending record looks more progressive like expanding medical. over the last decade major companies announced plans to leave the state with lower corporate taxes. toyota, carl's jr., and more are leaving. most are headed to texas, advisory, nevada, or oregon where taxes and home prices are a lot lower. >> thank you. steve: a lot ofple blame you for this pension problem. you said it was 400 you signed in 1999 that handed out these nice pension arrangements. do you feel responsibility for this fiscal crisis that's hitting california.

Many say his spending record looks more progressive like expanding medical. over the last decade major companies announced plans to leave theta with lower corporate taxes. toyota, carl's jr., and more are leaving. most are headed to texas, advisory, nevada, or oregon where taxes and home prices are a lot lower. >> thank you. steve: a lot of people blame you for this pension problem. you said it was 400 you signed in 1999 that handed out these nice pension arrangements. do you feel responsibility for this fiscal crisis that's hitting california.

Showed up on election day and it worked out well and went my way. >> it certainly did. your point was very powerful in your state. you voted for him yourself in the attack but you ended up attacking him. what changed? why could you no longer support him? >> it seems as the pension issue came forward and then funding for excuse and other services, that he was not necessarily listening to his constituents back home and doing what we were asking him to do. >> so what is your solution to the pension problem? why would you criticize his approach? >> there have been studies that have shown if the pe...

I got new employees, i capped retirement for new employees. instead of getting 100% at 55, they got 5% at 65. that's since been changed. i'm tough enough and resourceful enough to work with our employees to address a growing pension problem. i wasn't afraid to take on the tough issues if you recall. almost everybody said we weren't going to make it, and we did. >> could you look at service employees international union, the big player, or the california teachers association in the eye and say, young people are getting screwed, we're writing checks that will not pay, they'll bounce. can you loo...

Jersey is that what we've done so far is not come close to closing the gaps quickly enough. >> joining me now, executive director of the new jersey working families alliance. all right. is this just a complete and total 180 flip-flop, doing exactly the thing he said he wouldn't do? am i wrong in thinking that? >> i think bottom laine, the gr has continuously walked the state into this idea of he is the fiscally responsible candidate. he was a fiscally responsible governor. and the reality is that he has continuously decided to protect tax breaks for the rich, corporate loopholes, and at the ex...