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Several decades ago. and it made the transition. and i think we need somebody from the private sector who is not beholden to any particular public ideology and, instead, is beholden to the citizens of the state of illinois. >> do you like governor walker of wisconsin and how he has handled some of those pension problems and public problems or not? >> i do. and i feel the same way about daniels in indiana. >> so you are a fiscal conservative? i don't mean to put words in your mouth. >> no. you are not putting words in my mouth. you are accurate. >> if president obama could run again would you v...

Also, today, on another political development, you can see how ukraine is moving in the opposite direction. the government of kiev signed an association agreement with europe. so while russia is trying to solidify crimea, maybe even have some more overtures in the east and south, the government in kiev signed this landmark agreement, really, having closer economic and political ties with the e.u. >> and that, of course, is what putin had been fighting all along. richard engel in eastern ukraine for us. richard, thanks. we're keeping an eye on any of the developments on the missing plane, what'...

Now had his 30th year in office and 12th as governor. he still may not use a teleprompter, but three failed presidential runs have taught him an election year is no time to talk about california's pension problems or unemployment. >> i used to say, take the ends and throw them out. take the outs and put them in. i don't say that anymore. [ laughter ] my message -- there's no substitute for experience. >> well, can an insider elected official sell an outsider populous message? h running against the republicans in washington. >> the average coloradoan doesn't think much of politics or politician...

Latino voters to the republican party. if you look at some of the polls that came out before i believe latino voices did a poll that showed while folks would vote democratic, if you asked them if they were liberal or conservative latino were mostly conservative. republicans were leaving votes on the table. talking african-americans and latinos at the moment. you could add women, you could add young people, lesbian, gay, transgender, if the republican party wants to remain a minority party at the can tip to say no to all of those constituency. >> and jonathan capehart gets the last word. >> i'd...

Teachers president randy wi winegardner is posting this on twist. stop the governor from stro destroying public education. philadelphia will be one of three cities. our next guest plans to visit there as part after town hall series on education reform next months. i want to bring in former washington, d.c. chancellor michelle reece. good to see you. good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> good. let me ask you about the school budget crisis in philadelphia. it's in the headlines but a lot of schools are facing these kinds of troubles. how does it get to this point? >> there are a lot of ...