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American-russian relationship. the interference in the u.s. electoral process so i think secretary tillerson is arriving in moscow with a list of grievances and i think he is going to be pointing out to the russians that if they expect better relations with the united states, that is going to be conditioned on better russian behavior. so we'll see how that dialogue goes. the secretary has been tough with the russians in the past when it comes to business dealings. when it comes to the diplomatic -- >> the white house seems to be going further than the pentagon in tying russia to this attack, i...

Past when it comes to business dealings. now he's carrying a diplomatic portfolio but with the same requirement. >> general hayden, the white house seems to be going further than the pentagon in tying russia to this attack. is caution the better way to proceed? >> look, i am with the pentagon guys, and i thought that press conference that they had this afternoon was remarkable for its candor and its accuracy and in great care two or three times, the question seemed to want to put chum in the water to blame the russians for this. and each time the general and the secretary were very emphatic. t...