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And, you know, i asked him, how do you -- what do you on a night when such a decision is due? and he said, you stay up late and wake up early. >> i think one of the other amazing things about this operation is the fact that unless you needed to know, no one knew about this operation. does the president go into what it was like keeping something so monumental so secret? >> we asked that of not only the president, but everybody in the picture. secretary clinton talks about the fact that she could not share this with her staff. president obama's secretary didn't know. and yet calls are coming in ...

To make an effort. he says he is talking about things like cutting that command. he's talking about really trying to severely cut down on the use of contractors. he's even talking about cutting the number of generals and admirals on the pentagon payroll. but will that really make a cut in the now $700 billion of annual spending for running both the bureaucracy and the wars in iraq and afghanistan? listen to why the secretary says he feels he has to take these steps. >> the culture of endless money that has taken hold must be replaced by a culture of savings and restraint. toward this end i am ...