MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber November 7, 2019 23:42:00
>> do you think that some of this trial relates to people bluffing and aggrandizing themselveses into a story and now the story has turned dark? >> i think, you know, in roger's defense, i think that you have to understand that he's a showman. he's an illusionist. and sometimes when you buy a ticket for the show, you don't necessarily think that the illusionist sawed a woman in half. you are happy with the show and the performance. and in the beginning, he said he had spoken to assange. and then he quickly realized that that was an embellishment. and he needed to correct it. and his story sinc...
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