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MSNBC Dateline August 24, 2019 07:19:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline August 24, 2019 07:19:00

See her regularly, tried to make her comfortable. but there was another terribly important reason to see her then. maybe the most important. one last opportunity to find out who she was. as she was dying, did you try to find, do you know, maybe she'd make a deathbed confession and say, i did take you and here are what your parents' names are and how to find them. any of that happen? did you ask? >> oh, yeah. >> and shirley had a response for the girl she renamed pepper. the question was, what could see do with that answer? coming up -- if jaycee duggard could be found after 18 years, certain...

MSNBC Dateline August 24, 2019 07:16:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline August 24, 2019 07:16:00

Shirley pulled up to this motel in los angeles county and took a job at the motel's cleaning woman in exchange for a free room. and if it wasn't much, at least it gave them some measure of stability. and they signed up at a local school, junior high for pepper, high school for renee. much to shirley's disapproval. >> shirley would tell us, girls don't go to school. they get married. why do you want to go to school? i didn't like being late to school. i didn't like being absent all the time. >> so they got themselves up every morning and went to school and kept going. and then, pepper was 12. e...

MSNBC Dateline August 24, 2019 07:50:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline August 24, 2019 07:50:00

>> i thought you gave me away. >> no. >> they spent hours together here talking about their pasts, their likes and dislikes. their amazing similarities. we gave them a few weeks to get to know each other, and then sat down again with pepper and renee. so there it is. you have your mother, but what now? are you -- will you have a relationship with her? >> well, we're going to move her in with me. >> move into your house? >> yes, yes, once she gets all her affairs in order. we're going to move her in. >> why? >> because i want her. my husband wants her, too, there, so. i want to have a relations...

MSNBC Dateline August 24, 2019 07:11:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline August 24, 2019 07:11:00

Where did they go? the little girl had no idea. but she did know that from now on, she had a new name. they called her pepper. pepper smith. she was not yet 5 years old. >> we lived in cars and motels and going from state to state staying at salvation armies to get a meal here and there. just -- >> what's it like to live in a car? >> it's horrible. it's embarrassing. >> she was confused, of course, and terribly frightened at first. she begged, take me home. shirley ignored her. she imagined running away. >> i had nowhere to go. i was too scared. >> then as the weeks and months and then years w...

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Did her mother bobbie actually give her away? shirley told pepper that rene was her sister. the two girls listened wide-eyed as shurlly explained to strangers that she was their grandmother, that her parents had been killed in an accident. >> i knew everything happening to us was wrong. >> why had she been taken? she didn't know. not for money certainly and without pepper's birth certificate, shurlly couldn't use her to score public assistance, though she did use renee that way. >> i never wanted to do anything wrong. i felt like if i did something wrong over and over she wouldn't love me and ...