On. peter alexander, thanks to you. i want to talk more about the budget plan the president talked about this morning. we've got a terrific panel here. howard dean, the former democratic governor of vermont and former dnc chair. ns msnbc business anchor ali velshi, hans nichonichol, per alexander. they're going to shrink the debt at the same time as doing all this. do the numbers add up? >> no. the increase in defense and homeland security spending, let's say conservatively it's $40 billion, we've seen some estimates that it might be $90 billion. in order to not raise the did have sit, you'd h...