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Games, you do a lot of bad things and continually get appropriated. when i was the president's chief of staff, all of these things would have been under my per view. if we heard a cabinet official has given raises and lied to us, he would have been gone. you spend a bunch of money on a roman holiday he would have been gone. scott pruitt wanted to use -- to john points to get to d.c., it's a diplomat, like you know it is this town's restaurant. >> maybe he made a reservation. >> and h didn't want to be late. that's several an deck dote that is come out about pruitt over

But shimon, the fact that we now know these four areas that mueller's team is interested in talking to the president about, what could that indicate? >> well, it could indicate -- look, we know the four topics that we reported are on the obvious topics, right? michael flynn, jim comey, the firing of jim comey, the crafting of the statement. all of this, ana, we've reported on. there are other topics. and when we approached the white house about these other topics, they basically waved us off of it, right? so there are ore topics. and we know that the mueller team met face to face with the pres...

View of the public, so that the public cannot view the evidence and the facts and learn about what really happened here. they are trying to hide the facts and the truth from the public. it is clear as day. >> msnbc legal analyst is here with me, danny savales is here with me. i want to peck up on something more interesting you wrote about in which you which for ms nbcnews.com. let's begin with that, where does the $20 million come from? >> the term is liquidated damages. if two people enter into a contract, that i can agree if advance what the damages would be in case one of them breaches, bec...

The public. >> they want to have this adjudicated or decided in a conference room in a locked secure building outside the per view of the public so that the public cannot view the evidence and the facts and learn about what really happened here. >> but cohen has already admitted to paying daniels as part of the agreement. though, he has maintained that donald trump knew nothing about the confidentiality agreement or the payment and that he denies there ever was an affair. but daniels attorney makes the argument that donald trump's real name is now being used in these filings by his attorneys a...

His press conference. one, there's no allegation in this indictment that americans cooperated and, two, there's no allegation that it changed the outcome of the election. two things about that. on the first point, the keyword is in this indictment. this is an investigation that's on going. if anything, this indictment established a platform for future charges by laying out a conspiracy. the second thing, it is beyond the per view of the justice department to ever find if the outcome of the election was swayed. they'll never deliver that finding. the president now seizing in a misleading way on...