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Whether or not the financial dealings provide motive why the russia/trump team met is within his per view. he is not going to see that as a limitation. secondly, whether or not this is an obstruction of justice, i don't think it's obstruction of justice. i think were mueller to be fired, it would be an abuse of office, an abuse of power that would lead to consideration of article of impeachment. i don't think legal indictment before a grand jury says you are going to get obstruction of justice out of that. what is obstruction of justice or abuse of power is much the same. >> if someone you are...

Happened. we're checking. but that is not definitive to me and it is inconsistent with what i understand to be the case. >> and in terms of phone records, ago lar rov and his father, are they going to be giving all phone records over, even ones in the per view of russia and russian authorities. >> i'm not sure what you mean giving over or to who. these people with multiple means of communication, we're trying to find out if there is a record of any call between these two individuals in that time frame. i haven't seen it yet. >> to bob mueller. that's what you would be giving it to you. >> we'v...

Counsel, is also investigating the business dealings of jared kushner, obviously a top white house aide and the son-in-law of the president. what do you make of the drum beat of leaks that has simply not stopped? >> we were told when mueller got up and running these kind of leaks would stop because he would run such a tight ship. maybe he is not up and running yet but the leaks haven't stopped. i think the biggest thing it shows is the indisputable truth about washington investigations. they the not contract. they do not shrink. that expand. they almost always expand. so the question here is w...

Duty to protect the fbi director to ensure that the president wasn't behaving in improper and perhaps illegal ways. i have never seen a record this short of time of an attorney general who has been this d derilect. >> if we stipyou late that jeff sessions did something wrong, maybe even illegal, who would enforce that? he's the attorney general. >> that's right. this could come under the per view of bob mueller. but right now the senate intelligence committee has the opportunity to ask some questions. he has to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. senator, don't give them...

This is an experiment. >> i did not. i have the highest appointmeres the land. we have never had something like this before. we are trying to see if the democracy can withstand less than 140 days. we have someone who has never been in this process and now where are we? we got people like congresswoman she sheila jackson lee who convene of lawyers and scholars yesterday, trying to find out what's in their per view and what they can do. the house is looking at if there is an abuse of power. this brought out issues of possibility of abusive of power and possibility of obstruction of justice. they...