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Christians are being persecuted. there is nothing wrong with saying we're going to take into account minority religious persecution with our refugee situation. >> reporter: the question of australia, what about the perception, and do you have concerns -- >> of course i do. of course i do. [ inaudible question ] like i said, i didn't read the transcript so i can't speak to the president's -- [ inaudible question ] but i do think that there is a perception issue. and i think this loose rhetoric that suggests that this is a religious test or muslim ban is wrong because it furthers that perception...

To take into account minority religious persecution with our refugee situation. >> one about, though, and this leads to the question about australia, the question here with the executive order, what about the perception overseas? >> people say he did get into te grill of the australian prime minister. >> i didn't even read the transcripts. >> but that perception is, even if that's not true, there is a perception. >> i do think that there is a perception issue, and i think this loose rhetoric that suggests that this is a religious test or a muslim man is wrong, because it furthers our perceptio...

Puzder is unhappy about the criticism by democrats and unions and other liberal groups and progressives. one republican told cnn quote he may be bailing. he is not into the pounding he is taking and paper work. after cnn reported it, he said li i'm looking forward to the hearing. the pounding he is getting from people saying this is somebody's whose company has labor violations and doesn't believe in $15 wage. he believes in profits by not paying workers more. >> there is a perception issue. when are you in politic s for your life, you are used to it. when you are a businessman, you are not us...

Unified jeb bush and the rest -- donald trump and everybody as they're attacking each other like crazy. >> not just the field. i think this is going to be a huge issue this fall. there will be congressional hearings and every democrat has to answer what they're going to with the money they accepted from planned parenthood. >> amy, in 2012 defunding planned parenthood worked against republicans. it's almost as if the conservative movement said oh yeah? we're going to take away the planned parenthood wedge from you. can they do that? >> it's a war on women -- >> is this a crisis moment for plann...

It's almost as if the conservative movement said, oh, yeah? we're going to take away the planned parenthood wedge from you. can they do that? >> it's a war on women -- >> is this a crisis moment for planned parenthood where they're whole organization is at risk here? >> given what the republicans in congress and the ones on the campaign trail are talking about, there's a very serious movement there now. listen, they got support from enough democrats, the president, that they will not be defunded. >> nothing is going to -- the perception issue -- >> if i was advising planned parenthood, stop ta...