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You say this is just all spin and cable news focusing on the wrong things, and again, it's the same thing that democrats said about the affordable care act, and everybody is just believing the negative stuff. it's what you said, poppy, it is not just that people don't think it's going to make them better off, but two-thirds of a margin think it will help donald trump and people like him, and 66% say it's going to help the wealthy, and so you can sell it -- i could sell this as a new cell phone, but it has rips on it, right? you can say it's brand-new, and it's the perception issue that they st...

Wrapped up and he's going to be heading to miami and jacksonville. he's trying to blank it not only his presence here but spent $25 million on a new ad in 13 z states. they're trying to convey this message and it is a lot about media narrative that donald trump is on the offense that he's confidence and not trying to defend himself in battleground states. it is a perception issue that he's going for. in terms of volunteers and ground games, he's had a big deficit here in florida. they're trying to make it up ground. we -- they're trying to tell people where they could go or

Was mark who brought it up. secondly, i don't think the president is blaming his issues on other people. what the president is trying to do is have a conversation about different. . he's not questioning motives. he's talking about some perceptions. so i mean if you look at some of the people who are most identified with christianity in public life. look at the presidential campaign, ben carson, here's a president that says a muslim who should not be president. if you look eight cross the spectrum, yes, there are a lot of people associated with highly religious views who do often get perceived ...

Do you say, we had this argument four years ago, what is more important, winning the big states or the delegates. the delegates get you the nomination. but the perception issue, he needs one of the two wins. for santorum. he has the win both ohio and tennessee to at least have this -- have the ability to make the case, i have a path forward to the nom magz. there's a realistic path. he is not wrong, if he wins a state or two, there's a path for him to on go forward. >> you kind of eluded that the longer it goes on the more of a problem it becomes. they have had so many detours that have hurt t...

What's going on? how would you rate all three? let's start with jobs. >> for the last eight or nine months, this place is headed in a bad place for democrats. they need three things to happen to change that trajectory. in the jobs front they really needed desperately to get down to 9%. instead we've had 9.7, 9.7, 9.9, 9.7. we've had bad unemployment claims hop up yesterday. unemployment is simply not getting significantly better right now. >> is that because people who are getting back to work are people that were halftime, part time, now o working full time, but not getting credited at nuz jo...