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Excellent human intelligence sources in russia, to the point we could get their entire administration data base it appears. what it shows me is that the russians were carrying out a long-term information warfare operation designed at the beginning. back when they started it in 2013, they started doing their first hires of english linguists. they needed to shape the information environment for whoever they thought was going to be the opponent to hillary clinton. and, you know, the russians have been knowing about donald trump as far back as the first intelligence reports in 1977 when his wife, ...

It is their idea. they have changed the name to perception management. if is a very old school propaganda methodology. this entire mission was a perception management th methodology. >> they were trying to get americans to be unwitting agents to change their belief system about hillary clinton in favor of bernie sanders or jill stein. >> first off, the person they want to influence the most is whoever their preferred candidate is. he is going to come into an environment in which all of these people are criticizing hillary clinton. that's your candidate. >> then, the fluid that they use to stim...

Back when they started it in 2013, they started doing their first hires of enlish lin giss. they needed to shape the information environment for whoever they thought was going to be the opponent to hillary clinton. and, you know, the russians have been knowing about donald trump as far back as the first intelligence reports in 1977 when his wife, his second wife, was going to she canal slovakia. so he's been on the radar for a long time. that he would have come there for ms. universe, he would have spoken to the oligarchs. they would have tried to shape what they call the perception management...

What they call the perception management of the information battle space for donald trump to enter in with preconceived notions about what was good for russia. that would be anti-nato, anti-european union and ant anti-immigrant, which you know was his platform. >> did you see the hand of vladimir putin in this? >> yes, i did. one of the interesting things is the indictment seems to confirm the christopher steele report because he talks about the russians sort of earmarking donald trump and cultivating him for several years. so to me -- he also discusses the cyber operations. so it's very inter...

This. based on the hire dates of the staff, started in the summer of 2013. this mission went for three years before the u.s. election. then they started hiring their linguist in the fall of 2013. their management staff started plotting and planning in spring of 2014. then they started going to the united states and buying resources out of 2014 and 2015. this was wholly independent from the russian intelligence hacking mission, which starred in the summer of 2015. and the reason this is so is because russia has this long-fall strategy they call reflexsive control which nato refers to as percept...