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Republicans will say, i think, somewhat justifiably, if you go back and look at hillary clinton and some of the previous episodes, republicans are prosecuted and democrats aren't. that makes a huge perception problem for the justice department. >> it is interesting because i remember the "meet the press" this week that said the pence documents were good for biden and great for trump. i thought it was brilliant because what you see is a muddying of the waters. it is hard for americans to see classified documents floating out there and think maybe the issue is not just the individuals but how we...

He got passed other at the white house was should the first lady and the president be going back to wilmington, is it not potentially a, quote, crime scene, and he was ripped for saying that that. but now we know there have been additional discover of documents so, again, it's that perception problem for the doj. this is a headache for the white house but also for her you can garland who's going -- merrick garland who's going to have to answer questions about why they were allowed to come and go. it's interesting, we don't know exactly what they got time, you guys have pointed out the wording ...

Mar-a-lago is the former president didn't know they were coming. his attorneys were on site quickly, they demanded to see the search warrant, but this was not negotiated in advance. now, biden's supporters and the white house, they're going to continue to say it's because we're cooperating, and we invited or offered them access to come over. obviously, the conversations that have been going on leading up to the raid on mar-a-lago had gone much more differently. but that that's where the perception problem comes in percent doj. the "wall street journal" said there had been conversations previou...

They seem very uncomfortable, sort of like cats on a hot roof, with their sinking public approval. so i'm going to guess they would like to be held in higher regard. one of the problems -- and i remember mitch mcconnell in the studio when trump was a candidate saying, yeah, i'm going to support him and he had to crinkle that piece of paper. it was the federal society's list of judicial nominees that trump had committed to appointing if he won. it looks very rigged on the right, that there's a list, there's a checklist, and then the results seem to prove it to the 60% of americans who disapprov...

You don't have the kind of traffic that you might in a public vicinity. at least with his private residence not necessarily the penn biden center. but, you know, on the face this is a valid concern. >> so let's talk more about some differences between the situation at mar-a-lago which is partially public or open to members, anyway. versus what is happening here with president biden. you have said though that president biden has a perception problem on his hands. what do you mean by that? >> well, now that house republicans want to investigate this again on its face i think that, you know, this...