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On video and we go back to that perception problem, right? rcht absolutely. >> as these protests grow larger and larger it's hard to control people. >> certainly. you have people who are going to be infiltrators, agitators, who we don't know, people who probably don't even support the cause that will come out. when you have 50,000 people out on the streets of any town or any state, you're going to have these issues. and i think that police officers should arrest and people should be prosecuted if they harm an officer so we certainly do not condone what happened to officer chan or any other off...

Being here. >> thanks for having me. >> you heard what john miller said, it's really a perception problem, do you agree? >> i think there's perception but there's also reality. what we saw that happened to eric garner on video is not perception. that's reality. and it's something that has certainly outraged new york and all over the world. >> well, it seems to me that this "us versus them" thing is building across the country, right? so when you see protesters punching police lieutenants in the face because they're trying to stop someone from throwing a trash can off a brynn, that's clearly wr...

Innocently. it's not right. i need justice for my son. >> but in the wake of ferguson and garner decision, some are questioning the grand jury decision. >> the system itself is clearly problematic and ridden with conflicts when it comes to investigating police officers. >> some legal experts say secret see allows those that are not indicted to move on without bias. and new york's governor said what the system has now is a perception problem. >> people have to believe they are represented by the justice system or we have a fundamental societal problem. >> and the prosecutor did release some of ...

Saying he was outraged when he first heard of irs targettings of conservative groups to him telling bill o'reilly there was not a smidgen of corruption at irs. the public does not seem to agree. >> i don't think there is any evidence so far of wrongdoing with these missing documents but what you can tell from the "fox news poll" that just came out what you would intuit. that the american public is having a hard time swallowing the idea that irs just lost all these documents. i don't think will change. this is huge political perception problem, not just for the irs but for the obama administrat...

Sort of tradition of high ethics, it's a big deal. it's also unusual for any candidate himself or herself to put themselves in the center of coordination that's alleged here. now, there are no criminal charges that have been brought against walker. on thursday he simply wanted to call the probe a partisan investigation with no basis in state law. >> i ask people to look at the facts. the facts are pretty clear. a judge at the state and federal level made it clear that they didn't buy into this argument. they said to move on. >> but walker, whose race for governor was tied in a recent poll and ...