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The truth donald trump jr. could have a perjury problem. >> people in the investigation already sentenced to time in prison for that. nia, so the trump team has been spinning, denials about this meeting ever since it's happened, just for the sake of the viewers and hard to keep track of all the stories to show some of this up on the screen. june 9th, first came out, donald trump jr., trump knew nothing. sanders said he learned of it later. trump learned of it later. trump again. don jr. again. this is a repeated back and forth here. does the white house have credibility on this? trying to impu...

Analyst, michael steele, and former deputy assistant for the national defense and national security adviser, nancy farkus. considering we just went through the headlines on russia, the me memo, john, i want to pick up where we left off. the idea that the president's team is incredibly concerned about potential, the perjury problem, so to speak. where does that -- how concerned are they still that they have any -- do they have a way out of having the president talk about mueller? >> well, he's going to have to -- it seems, anyway, it seems that the way it's been set up, that he's going to have ...

He said it. so he said it once at dinner, and then he said it twice during phone calls. >> did you call him? >> in one case, i called him. in one case, he called me. >> did you ask him, am i under investigation? >> i actually asked him, yes. i said, if it's possible, would you let me know am i understand investigation? he said, you are not under investigation. >> but he's given sworn testimony that there is an ongoing investigation into the trump campaign and possible collusion with the russian government. >> right. >> you were the centerpiece of the trump campaign. so was he being truthful wh...

Least a dozen incidents where agency employees have been caught gathering intelligence, gathering the dirt on their spouses or their girlfriends or people they had a crush on. here to comment on this latest outrage, the nation's foremost libertarian, judge andrew napolitano. judge, great to see you. >> always a pleasure my dear friend. >> we know of a dozen cases. there's got to be more. >> there's a lot of troubling aspects to this. first of all, the snooping outside the parameters of the fisa warrant is a felony. secondly we know the snooping has been going on for a couple of years and that ...

Emails especially american citizens who are not suspects. it does circle around to the irs scandal because what we know from the irs scandal is the obama administration has been keeping enemies' lists, obviously of conservatives. that is one of the reasons you are seeing reaction from many of good friends in the conservative movement, maybe they are targeting us for audits, are they spying on our emails and listening in on phone conversations. >> megyn: we have testimony under oath from james clapper specifically denying that they ever did this. it was four months ago. they have been doing it ...