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We were talking about the gun-free zone in oregon. if i could give you perspective. oregon is a permit state. a lot of oregonens do have concealed handgun licenses. that's what we call them here. and we're kind of one of the unique states that they do a mental health check when they issue that carry permit. the gun-free zones are areas that tell licensed gun owners that you are not allowed to carry your weapon in this facility. so they do serve a purpose to let everyone know this is a gun-free zone. conversely, as jonathan pointed out, if you're going to perpetrate some act, you know most peop...

Loopholes, 49% less suicides with a gun. in states that have closed those loopholes, 17% less aggravated assaults with a gun, including attempted murder. and we have examples of states when they've done just the opposite like missouri that used to be an all permit state. when they rescinded it, murders with guns went up 25%. and so for those people who sort of say laws don't matter, in fact, we've got proof that laws do matter and they keep people safer. and why would any elected official in this country not want to keep its constituents safer? >> with that experience in which some states who ...

So with states like nevada and colorado, we are seeing more than just states in new england. we are seeing more than just -- >> the purple states -- >> getting into purple states. here's the tragedy of it. there are 14 states in this country that have actually closed the background check loopholes so that background checks are required at gun shows or on the internet and those states are safer. in the states that have closed those loopholes, 38% less murders of domestic partners with a gun. in states that have closed those loopholes, 49% less suicides with a gun. in states that have closed tho...

Here's the tragedy of it. there are 14 states in this country that have actually closed the background check loopholes so that background checks are required at gun shows or on the internet and those states are safer. in the states that have closed those loopholes, 38% less murders of domestic partners with a gun. in states that have closed those loopholes, 49% less suicides with a gun. in states that have closed those loopholes, 17% less aggravated assaults with a gun, including attempted murder. and we have examples of states when they've done just the opposite like missouri that used to be ...