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Narrative. on or about the same day september 18th, 2016, stone e-mailed person two, who may be randy credico in an article with allegations against then candidate clinton. stone stated, please ask the head of organization one, presumably julian assange, for any state or hrc e-mail from august 10 through august 30, particularly on august 20, 2011, that mention the subject of the article or confirmed this narrative. as a prosecutor, is that just roger stone realizing that wick lease has stuff anyway and just saying, hey, if you're already releasing stuff anyway, here are some of our orders. we'...

He loves it. he wants to put himself out there. this is his moment, or does it mean that he doesn't get what he's up against? d. lemon, come on in here and help me have some perspective. >> it could be both. >> it could be both. could be both. >> could be both. >> here's why i don't get it. here's just one paragraph from the indictment, okay? and they only need one lie to get you, okay? written communications between stone and person one, jerome corsi, and person two, randy credico, continued through his testimony. indeed, on about september 26th, 2017, the day that stone testified before the ...

He's facing objectively, do you think he would cut a deal? >> no. roger stone is one of the most resilient men i have ever met. he manages to take a horrible situation and turn it around and i have seen it all the time. so i never doubt him anymore. so don't count him out. there's a lot of legitimacy in the fact that he's a 66-year-old man and forgetful and people should understand he's also a human being and being in a stressful situation, even such as this, you forget, you don't say what you want to say, you're not articulate and he testified in front of the senate i can't expect any normal ...

Merits. i know the legal council you have been given and i understand it. i'm surprised they have you out at all. when you say they have no proof, i have not seen an indictment connected to this probe that has more proof than this one does of communication that prove you didn't tell the truth to the congress. the congressional panel you were before. >> false, if you go to my website and watch my interviews i have refuted virtually everything in there and then there's a bunch of things in there that i don't believe are true. no senior campaign official told me to find out anything about wick le...

>> i think he felt like it was his duty. he has been destroyed in the press. he's been under constant surveillance, or at least he believes to be, and he thought that by going there and giving his side, that it would somehow alleviate the pressure of everything that's going on. >> rudy giuliani talks about this idea of a perjury trap. perjury trap is where they only bring you in to prove that you're lying because they have you already. not for legitimate investigative purposes. i'm not saying that's what this was, but roger had to know they were asking him such specific questions two and three...