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People didn't want to hear it. >> thoughts? >> i agree with you. jindal has a record. rick perry, i didn't like everything he did, but he created jobs and closed prisons. you can't cut through on politics. you can't cut through. we now have a personality primary. i think so. >> they coupled is up. donald trump is winning because he's not them. it's not about policy. wants to be in the policy of not them. >> we will take a quick break and when we come back, joe biden getting emotional talking about possibly running for president while talking about grieving for his son, bo. the most candid sinc...

Would you want a job that in fact every day you had to get up and you had to modulate what you said and believed. if you are going to run you are running for a reason. you've want the job for a reason. if you can't state why you want the job, then, there is a lot more lucrative opportunities other places. >> so, listen he is talking about exactly what we have all been talking about authenticity. if you deon't want the job, why be fake about it. kind of talking about hillary clinton, not talking about hillary clinton. what do you think? >> this is no longer a policy primary. more of a personali...

>> the factor is can i do it? can my family undertake what is an arduous commitment that i would be proud to take under ordinary circumstances? but the honest to god answer is i just don't know. >> the honest to god answer is i just don't know, and he really seemed to mean it. van jones, you really have to know if you're going to run for president. >> you do, and yet, you know, let's just take a moment. this is someone who is a beloved figure in the democratic party opening his heart up in a way. if this were a policy-based primary, there's no reason to run. hillary clinton represents a lot of...