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No social security applications can come in. no new passports. no new unemployment statistics. no national parks and museums. i don't think they cut as many people. you start talking about checks. let's get back to the personality stuff. bill clinton was this big guy this almost teddy bear guy against this grinch and evil looking guy newt gingrich. it was easy to pick your nice guy against the villain. this time you have boehner who looks like he hates having to do this. he looks miserable, like he's being pushed around by the tea party people, against a very cool president who has a hard time...

To watch out for. >> good point. i want to go through the issues of things that would happen. no benefit checks for some veterans. no social security applications can come in. no new passports. no new unemployment statistics. no national parks and museums. i don't think they cut as many people. you start talking about checks. let's get back to the personality stuff. bill clinton was this big guy this almost teddy bear guy against this grinch and evil looking guy newt gingrich. it was easy to pick your nice guy against the villain. this time you have boehner who looks like he hates having to do...

Government. >> good point. i want to go through the issues of things that would happen. no benefit checks for some veterans. no social security applications can come in. no new passports. no new unemployment staflts. no national parks and museums. i don't think they cut as many people. you start talking about checks. let's get back to the personality stuff. bill clinton was this big guy this almost teddy bear guy against this grinch and evil looking guy newt gingrich. it was easy to pick your nice guy against the villain. the time you have boehner he hates having to do this. he looks miserable...

There's tough media coverage, if you go back with a magnifying class and google, you might find some. what people are interested, television on the press are a bunch of personality stuff and we're suffering from it today. >> jon: and also said, judy, in the interview one of the things i think it's important for people to remember, you know, this country doesn't just agree with the new york times editorial page. that seems like a pretty monstrous change in direction for this president. >> well, i think one of the reviewers of this show and now we're reviewing these shows rather than covering th...