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About this. the entitlements are sticking out there. >> they did. it was called sequestered and both parties hate it. >> neil: and they have a history of this with rodman forcing budgetary discipline. the growth numbers, i love it and charles the right to prove this could be done, but we're running out of wiggle room here. no matter what your pet spending priorities are, there's not a lot of wiggle room here. there's $20 trillion in debt, right? >> that's right. no one, republican or democrat, wants to see our federal budget picture look unsustainable, insolve vent. nobody wants a cruel social...

People start coming in the end of august and it just builds week after week. >> when you think about all the work that goes into this, it's hard to figure how they make money, but i guess they do. >> oh, yeah, absolutely. they are not only making money, again on those costumes, they're capitalizing on the fact that people are doing last-minute shopping. we see it at the holidays. people go back out, go shopping on the 23rd of december, you see the same thing. so most of the business they're seeing is between the 28th, 29th and sometimes during the day on the 31st. >> the most shocking thing to...

Federal government because you have congress subcommittees and with their pet spending. if you don't do that, this bloat will come back again. david: for those are concerned, steve hurt his shoulder and doing okay. he's recuperating and wish him well. john, is this how the starve the beast? >> i don't think so, i'm all for slowing the growth of the federal government. i think this is a symbolic distraction, it's going to give the citizenry a more efficient government? no, it's not. government is overbloated. if you want to give people a better government. greatly shrink federal head count. the...