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in iowa where a key battle kicks off not many months away. sir? >> no, that's not the case, neil. not many months away. look at what is happening here. you have a number of candidates coming to iowa. the former president will be here in a couple hours from now. he's doing that fox news town hall with sean hannity. he had a full day in iowa. close to the des moines area. the former president is just finishing up his final campaign event of the day. part of a two-day trip to iowa. got here last night as governor ron desantis left for new hampshire. desantis has been arguing that the ne...

About the bill as it came over. i recognize it's a compromise. the question is whether it's an acceptable compromise. i mentioned defense spending. as it turns out, the domestic spending is not cut quite as much as originally billed. you might still want to go with the bill, but it's a little different than the original as i took it. >> neil: we do know republicans are crying that this will spend trimming $1.5 trillion over ten years. sounds like a lot until you realize that the overall debt will increase more than $10 trillion when all is said and done. that's a rounding error on a rounding e...

About this. the entitlements are sticking out there. >> they did. it was called sequestered and both parties hate it. >> neil: and they have a history of this with rodman forcing budgetary discipline. the growth numbers, i love it and charles the right to prove this could be done, but we're running out of wiggle room here. no matter what your pet spending priorities are, there's not a lot of wiggle room here. there's $20 trillion in debt, right? >> that's right. no one, republican or democrat, wants to see our federal budget picture look unsustainable, insolve vent. nobody wants a cruel social...

The bakery convectionary, tobacco workers and grain millers. >> and that rolls off the tongue, hence the baker's union. >> i think we have to be clear on something. you all want to blame this entirely on the unions. this company has been in trouble for a longtime. it filed for lang rupt see in -- it filed for bankruptcy in january. the company lost money in 30 of the past 37 quarters. leading up to the bankruptcy filing, they say the company was converting some of the executive pay from performance-based bonuses to salary to get around bankruptcy rules. they had to roll back some of the pay ra...

Lot of people are not. we remember the commercials grandma in the wheelchair being pushed off a cliff. why are you willing to tackle that? >> we know and a last viewers know 71 percent of federal spending this year is on entitlements and debt service. if we do not deal with this we cannot invest in national defense or in education or in infrastructure. we will not be able to afford to do this. the programs are going to be insolve vent. that is not acceptable. nor is a massive tax increase on the american people to pay for it. we need to reform the programs. we can do it in a way that is not go...