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I remember him saying, rudy, could you explain what's happening on the six? he respondent something to the effect of, we are going to the capitol. it's going to be great. the president is going to be there. he is going to look powerful. he's gonna be with the members, it's gonna be with the senators. talk to chief about it. doctors chief about it. he knows about it. >> and did you go back then up to the west wing and tell mr. meadows about your conversation with mr. giuliani? >> i did. after mr. giuliani had left the campus that evening, i went back up to our office, and i found mr. meadows in...
>> that's it. and mike pence, next door to mark meadows office having no idea that he's being set on essentially to be either forced, bludgeoned, if trump had gotten into that room, can you imagine him getting into the house of representatives, what would mike pence have done? could have made the same decision that he ultimately made, facing trump and a mob? >> i think, you know, trump thought he could, and that he was getting used as a mob item. but here's the thing that i don't get still is meadows. okay, let's just talk about matters for a second because the picture of meadows is very consi...
Mark meadows office having no idea that he's being set on essentially to be either forced, bludgeoned, if trump had gotten into that room, can you imagine him getting into the house of representatives, what would mike pence have done? could have made the same decision that he ultimately made, facing trump and a mob? >> i think, you know, trump thought he could, and that he was getting used as a mob item. but here's the thing that i don't get still is meadows. okay, let's just talk about matters for a second because the picture of meadows is very consistent throughout, and it's been in some way...
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