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Just gun use. holly hughes is here, criminal prosecutor and also wendy walsh, who is a psychologist. so, peter, i want to talk to you about out on the streets. and, listen, when we researched this and tried to get people to do this after these shootings, to get someone to comment on and talk about this from the community, nobody wants to talk. everyone is afraid. why is that? >> i think people have a real fear of retaliation. and we hear out in the street a lot they'll say, you know, i really can't be seen talking to you. and we get it. they live there. and people kind of have an idea of what'...

Shooting each other. >> of course. >> if they weren't shooting each other, you wouldn't need that. peter, why do you think only -- the only time america talks about chicago violence is when the collective numbers really reach a level that they have reached this week when they reach a certain point. why do you think that it only comes into the conversation then? >> you know what, i'm out i hear from people almost a sense of resignation about what's going on especially among the young people. it was mentioned here yesterday about how a lot of the shooters and victims are so young. the older folk...

Facing off inside of that mall. now we're continuing our conversation about gun violence in america. a conversation sparked by the shootings in chicago over the last two days that have claimed four lives and left 20 people wounded. a peace march is scheduled there for tonight. and the chicago peace basketball tournament going on there right now, an event that was organized by current and former nba players. let me bring now back don lemon in los angeles. don, just to get the conversation going again, how does chicago violence differ say from other national tragedies? >> you know, i wish i kn...