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People that i used to consider colleagues at the state department gave up talking to me. and even after the amazing work that other whistle-blowers have done exposing the nsa, exposing what has happened in our wars, i am afraid that we as a group generally remain pariahs. right now there is a celebrity whistle-blower that is taking the attention. but i suspect at some point the system will configure itself to wonder what his motives were. >> tucker: sad, but not surprisingt paired peter, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: before the contents of the whistle-blower compla...

You can't know. and you won't know until you find out who the so-called whistle-blower is. that's why they are hiding him. that's what it's really going on here. peter vanburen has watch things like this for a long time. a veteran of the state department. a whistle-blower himself, he joins us tonight. thank you so much for joining us prayed >> thank you. >> tucker: as someone who actually was it whistle-blower and who rode extensively about it, i think it is fair to say that you were punished for it. >> absolutely. >> tucker: what do you make of this? did any of the people ride to your aid? >>...

Disowned by the left. people that i used to consider friends gave up talking to me. people that i used to consider colleagues at the state department gave up talking to me. and even after the amazing work that other whistle-blowers have done exposing the nsa. exposing what has happened in our wars, i am afraid that we as a group generally remain pariahs. right now there is a celebrity whistle-blower that is taking the attention. but i suspect at some point the system will configure itself to wonder what his motives were. >> tucker: sad, but not surprising paired peter, thank you for joining us...

And you won't know until you find out who the so-called whistle-blower is. hothat's why they are hiding hi. that's what it's really going on here. peter vanburen has watch things like this for a long time. a veteran of the state department. a whistle-blower himself, he joins us tonight. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> tucker: as someone who actually was it whistle-blower and who w rode extensively about it, i think it is fair to say that you were punished for it. >> absolutely.y. >> tucker: what do you make of this? did any of the people ride to your aid? >> no, absolutely n...

>> tucker: amazing story. we promise clarity and you delivered. peter vanburen is exactly the person we want to talk to tonight, contributing editor at the american conservative, he is also a former whistle-blower who worked for the state department in iraq in 2009 and blew the whistle on waste, fraud, and abuse in that country and was hassled for it. it's great to see you, thanks so much. the reason i want to talk to you so much is because you are a legitimate whistle-blower, people on both sides of the aisle would acknowledge that and your whistle-blowing was important. you have this perspec...