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For a role you played in it. i will leave us with this one story. i was in miami when donald trump was campaigning and i was talking to a gentleman who was telling me why he liked donald trump and he said it's he's going to be tough on immigration, he's going to deport all these undocumented immigrants. i said president obama has deported more undocumented immigrants than anybody. i mean, he's done it more. and the guy looked at me in the face and said that's not true, you're lying. i said, no, there are stats to prove it. what stats? and i pulled them up on my phone, pew stats. he looked at t...

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The guy looked at me and said i don't believe you. i don't believe you. >> part of what trump has done so effectively is undermine the credibility of institutions. the federal government. justice department. in particular the media. where we're in a position where it is hard to present facts and have them be accepted at face value. >> pew stats, guys. pew stats. no one's arguing with pew. guys, thank you very much. next up, the one issue president trump will not bring up with north korea's dictator. stay with us. metastatic breast cancer is relentless, but i'm relentless too. mbc doesn't tak...

Themselves? >> first, there is just this culture of grievance. things have not gone right for them in terms of -- i don't want to paint with a broad brush but some of trump' supporters, the argument he articulated during the campaign was you have been lefd behind, thatthereople have got a better deal, whether -- some international organization is doing better and your expense. he tapped into that anger. at least at this point they are willing to follow that along even though their actual day to day lives are negativity impacted by a lot of what he proposes. but they believe in him, they think ...